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Benjamin Webb (1819-85) and Victorian Ecclesiology
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 21 March 2016
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We begin in Trinity College, Cambridge, in May 1839. It is 10 o’clock at night and three undergraduates named Neale, Webb, and Boyce are trying to persuade one of their dons, Archdeacon Thorp, to become senior member of a new society. They refuse to leave until he agrees. The Cambridge Camden Society is born. J. M. Neale becomes President, Benjamin Webb Secretary, and E.J. Boyce Treasurer. Within a year they are joined by another Trinity man with influence in a much wider sphere, Beresford Hope. By 1843 the membership list includes two archbishops, sixteen bishops, thirty-one peers and M.P.s, seven deans or chancellors of dioceses, twenty-one archdeacons or rural deans, sixteen architects, and seven hundred ordinary members. In 1845 the society goes national, moves to London, and becomes the Ecclesiological Society.
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15 E.g. Government defeated: ‘Hurrah! … Lord Derby sent for’ (Diary, 20 Feb. 1858).
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49 In 1841–4 Webb saw Pugin frequently in Cambridge and London. E.g. ‘Lionised Pugin about [Cambridge] and saw him off on the Lynn coach. Delighted with his geniality and vigour’: B. Webb, ‘Diary’, 29 Nov. 1842, Oxford, Bodleian Library, SC 44750 (e.406).
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85 [B. Webb], review [App. no. 241], SatR, 35 (1873), pp. 255–6.
86 [B. Webb], review [App. no. 200], SatR, 35 (1873), pp. 333–4.
87 [B. Webb], ‘Architecture in 1864’, SatR, 17 (1864), p. 783. Even an antiGoth like Robert Kerr was aiming ‘his classic bow with many an arrow drawn from the Gothic quiver’ ([B. Webb] reviewing R. Kerr, The Gentleman’s House [1865], SatR, 19 [1865], p. 707).
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