Book contents
- Frontmatter
- Contents
- Preface
- Preliminary note
- List of abbreviations
- Introduction
- 1 Cratylus' naturalism (383a–384c)
- 2 Hermogenes' conventionalism (384c–386e)
- 3 Naturalism defended (386e–390e)
- 4 Naturalism unfolded (390e–394e)
- 5 Naturalism illustrated: the etymologies of ‘secondary’ names (394e–421c)
- 6 Naturalism illustrated: the primary names (421c–427e)
- 7 Naturalism discussed (427e–433b)
- 8 Naturalism refuted and conventionalism defended (433b–439b)
- 9 Flux and forms (439b–440e)
- Appendix 1 The text of 437d10–438b8
- Appendix 2 Some interpolations and non-mechanical errors in W and δ
- References
- I General index
- II Index of ancient texts
- III Index of Greek expressions
- IV Index of words discussed in the Cratylus
2 - Hermogenes' conventionalism (384c–386e)
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 25 October 2011
- Frontmatter
- Contents
- Preface
- Preliminary note
- List of abbreviations
- Introduction
- 1 Cratylus' naturalism (383a–384c)
- 2 Hermogenes' conventionalism (384c–386e)
- 3 Naturalism defended (386e–390e)
- 4 Naturalism unfolded (390e–394e)
- 5 Naturalism illustrated: the etymologies of ‘secondary’ names (394e–421c)
- 6 Naturalism illustrated: the primary names (421c–427e)
- 7 Naturalism discussed (427e–433b)
- 8 Naturalism refuted and conventionalism defended (433b–439b)
- 9 Flux and forms (439b–440e)
- Appendix 1 The text of 437d10–438b8
- Appendix 2 Some interpolations and non-mechanical errors in W and δ
- References
- I General index
- II Index of ancient texts
- III Index of Greek expressions
- IV Index of words discussed in the Cratylus
Summary
CONVENTION AND INDIVIDUAL DECISION (384C–385B)
First statement (384ce)
Hermogenes begins to state his own views politely contradicting Cratylus:
he. Well, Socrates, though I have often discussed both with Cratylus here and with many others, I cannot be persuaded that there is any other correctness of a name than convention and agreement [συνθήκη καὶ ὁμολογία]. For it seems to me that, whatever name one imposes on something, this is its correct name [ὅτι ἄν τίς τῳ θῆται ὄνομα, τοῦτο εἶναι τὸ ὀρθόν]; and that, if one changes it by imposing another one again, and does not call the thing by the former name any more [καὶ ἂν αὖθίς γε ἕτερον μεταθῆται, ἐκεῖνο δὲ μηκέτι καλῇ], the new name is no less correct than the old, as when we change the name of our slaves. For no name belongs by nature to anything [οὐ γὰρ φύσει ἑκάστῳ πεφυκέναι ὄνομα οὐδὲν οὐδενί], but in virtue of the custom and habit of those who made names into habits and those who call things by them [ἀλλὰ νόμῳ καὶ ἔθει τῶν ἐθισάντων τε καὶ καλούντων].
(384c10–e2)The core of Hermogenes' self-presentation can be divided into three sentences:
(H1) ‘I cannot … agreement’ (c11–d2),
(H2) ‘It seems to me … our slaves’ (d2–5),
(H3) ‘No name … call things’ (d5–7).
Let us examine each sentence more closely.
(H1) asserts that the correctness of the name consists in convention (συνθήκη) and agreement (ὁμολογία).
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- The Cratylus of PlatoA Commentary, pp. 37 - 94Publisher: Cambridge University PressPrint publication year: 2011