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Negotiations between Edward II and John XXII concerning Ireland

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  28 July 2016

J.A. Watt
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There were three good reasons why Edward II hastened to secure papal help within the first year of the pontificate of John XXII (1316-17). A number of important bishoprics were vacant to which the king hoped to secure his candidate, he needed fiscal help for defence purposes, and the weight of papal condemnation to fall on his enemies. Within the year he had secured a satisfactory degree of papal support in each of these three desiderabilia, and the cooperation of pope and king touched Irish affairs at some important points.

The general reasons why the king should wish to arrange episcopal succession to his liking are well known. There was particular reason for securing politically reliable bishops in Ireland. As Edward himself was to explain to John, the ‘fraudulent machinations and malicious and false collusion’ of some Irish prelates against royal power had been a major factor in the risings connected with Edward Bruce’s invasion. At this time both Dublin and Cashel were vacant, and Edward took all measures to ensure their filling by men acceptable to him. There were two candidates in the field at Cashel, nominees of a split in the chapter. In August of 1316, Edward wrote to eight cardinals impressing on them the necessity of having an English archbishop, and urging the candidature of a Franciscan, Geoffrey of Aylsham.

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Irish Historical Studies , Volume 10 , Issue 37 , March 1956 , pp. 1 - 20
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Copyright © Irish Historical Studies Publications Ltd 1956

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11 Since 8 Aug. 1316 (Cal. pat. rolls, 1313-17 P.524).

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36 The princes claimed the testimony of ‘twelve bishops at least and of many other prelates’ to support their charges against the English. Cf. the translation of the Remonstrance in E. Curtis and R. B. McDowell, Irish historical documents, 1172-1922 (1943), pp. 38-46 at p. 45.

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61 Document B. below.

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68 I wish to express my thanks to Rev. Professor Aubrey Gwynn, S.J., for encouragement and help in the preparation of this article; and to Dr James Shiel, of the Classics Department of University College, Dublin, for his help in the transcription of the appended documents.