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page 273 note 1 De C. Trebatio Testa el eius loco inter aequales Berlin, 1849.
page 273 note 2 Pauly′s Realmcyclopddie der klass. Altert. Wiss., s.u. ‘Trebatius.’
page 273 note 3 CicJron et ses amis, Paris, ed. 1910, pp. 244 sqq.Google Scholar
page 273 note 4 M. zeius, GR. zeus.
page 273 note 5 Cf. Phil. i. 6; Top. i. 5; Ad Att. xvi. 6, 2 sq.
page 273 note 6 Fam. vii. 12, fin.; Ventus increbrescit... Velia.
page 273 note 7 Amabilior mihi Velia fuit, quod te ab ea sensi amari.
page 273 note 8 ... te ab ta (Velia) seitsi amari...; Rufio tuus ita desiderabatur, ut si esset unus e nobis;... nescio quid... Velienses uerebantur (about the final departure of Trebatius for Rome).
page 273 note 9 ... Velia non est uilior quant Lupercal; tamen istuc (Lupercal) malo quam haec omnia (Velia and Trebatius′ estate in Velia). Cf. also Ad Att. xvi. 6, 1 sq.; Phil. i. 8, 9.
page 273 note 10 Tu si me audies, quern soles, has paternas possessiones tenebis....
page 273 note 11 About 
page 273 note 12 Ciceronis Opp. ex Dion. Lambini... emendat.... cum notis F. Ursini, ap. A. Gryph. Lyon, t. iii. p. 520; note on Att. xvi. 6, 1.
page 274 note 1 Att. xvi. 6, 1.
page 274 note 2 Att. ib. 7, i; cf. Phil. i. g.
page 274 note 3 Fam. vii. 19: Ut primum Velia nauigare coepi institui Topica... conscribere, ab ipsa urbe com-monitus amantissima tui. Cf. Top. i. 5: haec... in ipsa nauigatione conscripsi.
page 274 note 4 Top. init., Fam. vii. ig, init.
page 274 note 5 Fam. vii. 19: Id absenti debere non potui; cf Top. i. 5: non potui igitur tibi... debere diutius; ut ueni Veliam... admonitus huius aeris alieni... nolui deesse ne tacitae quidem flagitationi tuae.
page 274 note 6 Fam. vii. ig, see n. 7; Top. i. 5: Vi ueni Veliam tuaque et tuos uidi, admonitus, etc.... In sending the Topics, he begins by remarking that he receives from Trebatius as great marks of friendship as he gives himself: vide quanti apud me sis; etsi iure id quidem; non enim te amore uinco.
page 274 note 7 Att. xvi. 6, i: Cum unum diem Veliat consti-tissem, ubi quidem fui sane libenter apud Talnatn nostrum nee potui accipi, illo absente praesertim liberalius.
page 274 note 8 Corn. Nep. Att. ig, 4: Agrippa, cm (Atticus) uirginem filiam collocarat.
page 274 note 9 Drumann, Gesch. Roms. v. p. g2 and n. 2. cf. Lettres de Cicron a Att. avec remarques, par L. Mongault, Paris, 1714, t. 5, pp. 524, 570: Attica Was much too young and the suitor not rich enough.
page 274 note 10 cf. Mongault, op. cit. p. 524, and Drumann l. c.
page 274 note 11 The only time that this marriage-treaty is clearly mentioned (xiii. 29, 1), the friend and confidant of Atticus, Cicero, seems to consider Talna′s means insufficient.
page 275 note 1 Att. xiii. 21, 7: Quod autem de ilia nostra cogi-tatione scribis,... ea quae noui, ualde probo, nomen domum, facilitates.
page 275 note 2 Att. xiii. 29, I: Incidimus inTalnam (we came to speak of T. ): hoc mihi nonplacuit: se scire aiebat (Nicias) ab eo nuper petitam Cornificiam, Q. filiam uetulam sane et multarum nuptiamm; non esse probaturn mulieribus, quod ita reperirent, rem non maiorem DCCC: hoc putaui te scire oportere.
page 275 note 3 Cf. Lehmann, de Cic. ad Att. ep., Berlin, 1892, pp. 168 n. I, and 169; cf. also de Nolhac, Petrarque et I′humanisme, i. p. 256, 257 et n. I.
page 275 note 4 Talanam M and ed. Jenson; Talnam ed. Rom.
page 275 note 5 Att. i. 16, 6; xiii. 29. I.
page 275 note 6 Cf. de Nolhac, op. cit. ii. p. 14 sq.
page 275 note 7 The name of Talna is in T. L. xxxix. 31; xlv. 21 etc. It is not perhaps the only time that this cognomen has been substituted for words of difficult understanding in this correspondence; for in P. Manut. (comment, in ep. Cic. ad Att., Venice, 1572, p. 753), and in Lamb. (Cic. opp. Lyon t. iii, Att. xv. 26, 4), (seruitutis) apud tale (quid) is given without explanatory notes apud Talnae.
page 275 note 8 Cf. A. Cappeli, Dizionar. di abbreviat. lat. ed ital., Milano, 1912, p. 381, col. 2, 1. 2.
page 276 note 1 Plin. H.N. xiii. (32) 17, 104; xvi. (85) 44 235; xvii. 1, 5; xxii. (27) 21, 55; xxiv. 2, 6 etc.
page 276 note 2 Mart. Epigr. viii. 51, 15: Palladius tenero lotos rib ore sonat.
page 276 note 3 Cf. Tyrrell and Purser, Corresp. of Cic. v. p. 342 sq.; P. Victorii, Explic. suar. in Cic. castig ap. S. Gryph. Lyon, 1552, p. 71: Aduersatur solum antiquae lectioni ( = lotum) quod lotum foeminino genere alii auctores appellarunt, cum ipse masculino usurpet: quare accurate considerandum est, uitiumne ea parte uetus (M) habeat, siue eo genere contra plurimorum morem, quod nix uerisimile est, Cic. appellare lotum uoluerit.
page 276 note 4 lutum GR.
page 276 note 5 ... te ego non reprehendo, qui ilium (Rufionemtuum) ad aedificationem tuavi traduxeris; quamquam enim Velia non est uilior quam Lupercal, tamen istuc malo....
page 276 note 6 Sat. ii. I.
page 276 note 7 Suet. Hor.: Domusqueeius ostenditur circa Tiburtini luculum; Hor. C. i. 17, 13.
page 276 note 8 Iurispr. anteiustin. reliq., Leipzig, 1908, p. 44, n. 6 (de relig.). I do not think that the upholders oi lucum have ever noticed this fact, which would confirm their thesis.
page 276 note 9 Pro Mil. 85,... tumuli... luci... arae quas tile praeceps amentia caesis prostratisque sanctissimis lucis substructionum insanis molibus oppresserat.
page 276 note 10 See note 8.
page 277 note 1 Ep. ad. Fam. lib. xvi., cum Hubert. Cler. Crescent... P. Manut. comment., Venice, ap. Bonellum, 1568, i. 130.
page 277 note 2 Fest. de uerb. signific. sub uerbis conlucare, sublucare; PI. N.H. xvii. (47) 28 fin
page 277 note 3 Horn. Od. ix. 93 sqq.: 
page 277 note 4 Plin. N.H. xiii. 17 (32) 105: (... dulci... cibo, ut nomen etiam genti dederit) nimis hospitali aduenarum obliuione patriae.
page 277 note 5 Sil. It. iii. 310 (Lotophagi) quos... dulci pascit lotos nimis hospita bacca. Cf. Tib. 1. iv. 55: Nee ualuit lotos coeptos auertere cursus (Ulyxis).
page 277 note 6 Cf. P. Manutius (Ep. ad Fam.... Venice, 1568, f° 130r) and his followers of same and later centuries.
page 277 note 7 PI. xiii. (32) 17, 104; xvi. (78)40,212; (85) 44,235; xxii. (27) 21, 55; xxiv. 2, 6. Col. vii. 9, 6; Ov. Met. x. 96 etc.
page 277 note 8 PI X;JJ (3 2 J I 7 I 0 5). (lotos) densus in ramis; Theophr. H. PI. iv. 3, I 
av PI..: ferunt uentris non sentire morbos qui eum mandunt; Theophr. I. I. 
PI. ib. 106: exercitus pastos eo accepimus; Theophr. ib.2: 
i. Cf. Hyg. fab. 125 (in the part translated from Greek sources) lotos used in the masculine. Cf. Martial, viii. 51, 34: Palladius... lotos.
page 277 note 9 Sen. De uit. beat. xi. 1 (sapiens) ab hoc (Voluptate) occupatus. Cf. Quint. Inst. Or. v. 8:... hi, qui traduntur a poetis gustu cuiusdam apud Lotophagos graminis (sic) dekniti Voluptatem saluti praetulisse.
page 277 note 10 Fam. vii. 6, 10; 13, 16.
page 278 note 1 Already pointed out by Hub. Cler. et P. Manut. (op. cit. f° 129r and 130r), by Victorius I.c.
page 278 note 2 Mem. de I′Acad. des Sc. 1788: Recherches sur MM arbrisseau connu sous le nom de Lotos de Lybie.
page 278 note 3 Mgr. Leveille, the well-known ‘ Secretaire perpetuel de I′Acad. Intern, de Geogr. Bot. ’ has kindly confirmed this property of the rhamnu lotus.
page 278 note 4 Detail equally confirmed by Mgr. Leveille. Cf. Hdt. iv. 177; Strab. c. 834; Pol. i. 39; PI. N. H. v. 4, 28; 7, 41; xiii. (32) 17, 104; Sil. It. iii. 310 etc. Cf. Roscher, Lexik. der Griech. u. Rom. Mythol, s.u. Lotophagen.
page 278 note 5 Equally confirmed by Mgr. Leveille.
page 278 note 6 On the whole landscape, cf. Lenormant: A travers I′Apulie et la Lucanie, ii. pp. 363, 365, 378; Baedeker, Ital. merid. 1907, p. 261; on Velia and Palinuri promontorium, Veil. Pat. ii. 79; Val. Max. ii 79, 3; on the islets, Strab. c. 252 n.; PI. N.H. iii. (13) 7, 85.
page 278 note 7 PI. Iun. v. 6, 19: Xystum... et protinus pratum multumque ruris uidet (triclinium); fenestris hac latus xysti, hoc nemus... comasque prospectat; cf. 13 magnum capies uoluptatem si hunc regionis situm ex monte prospexeris. Cf. Cic. Ac. pr. II. 80; 105.
page 278 note 8 Has paternas possessiones... Papirianam do-mum
page 278 note 9 Cf. Tyrrell and Purser, vi. p. 342.
page 279 note 1 Cf. de Off. iii. 9,39; Fam. vi. 2, 2; xii. 9, 1; de Fin. v. 23, 68; ad Brut. ii. 15, 9; in Catil. ii. 10; pro Marc. 9, etc. Cf. Sen. de Vit. Beat, xix, 2.
page 279 note 2 § 2 Sed in primis opportunum uiietur, his prae-sertim temporibus, habere per/ugium, primum eorum urbem quibus cams sis, deinde tuam domum tuosque agros, toque remoto, salubri, amoeno loco.
page 279 note 3 ... Velia non est uilior quam Lupercal.... tu si me audies quern soles, has paternas possessions tenebis... nobilem amnem Haletem, etc.
page 279 note 4 Ad Q. jr. ii. 11 [13], 4; pro Coelio, 26
page 279 note 5 ... has paternas possessiones.
page 279 note 6 Att. 13, 2: Si uero in hanc 
ueneris 
Formias dico...
page 279 note 7 Strab. c. 252 (some derive the name of the city from that of the river).
page 279 note 8 Hdt. i. 164, 7: Strab. c. 252; Hyg. ap. A. Gell. x. 16.
page 279 note 9 Giac. Racioppi: Stor. dei pop. delta Lucania e della Basilicata, Roma, Loescher, 1902, 2nd ed vol. i. p. 178.
page 279 note 10 Strab., Racioppi, op. cit., p. 211.
page 279 note 11 Coins: cf. Lenormant, Gr. Grece ii, 315; Id. La monnaie dans I′antiquite, vol. iii. p. 259. Pottery; Id., A travers...la Lucanie, ii. p, 405; de Witte, Description d′une coll. de vasts peints, p. 56. Cf. Racioppi, op. cit., p. 184 sq.
page 279 note 12 Parmenides, Zeno (cf. Strab. c. 252; Diog. Laert. ix., cap. 3; 5; etc.): the latter had died for the liberty of his country (Cicero, Tusc. ii. 52; De Nat. Deor., iii. 82).
page 280 note 1 Racioppi, op. cit., p. 185.
page 280 note 2 PL N.H. iii. (13) 7, 85; Strab.,; Hdt. i. 167.
page 280 note 3 Racioppi, op. cit., p. 171 sqq., 178; p. 64. Cf. Lenormant, A travers... la Lucanie, ii. p 383. Perhaps the name Hales brought also back to his memory, by the means of some legend, the river of the same name, in the island of Cos (Theocr. Id., vii. ed. Ahrens, p. 27, 1st verse).
page 280 note 4 Silius It. iii. 310.
page 280 note 5 For Trebatius′ family was not wealthy; cf. Stange, op. cit., p. 9 sq.
page 280 note 6 Cf. Schol. Od. io, 1; Eustath., p. 1644, 40; v. Wilamowitz-Mollendorff, Horn. Untersuckunge p. 169.
page 280 note 7 Plin. xiii. (32) 17 init.
page 280 note 8 Such seems to be the opinion of many ancient and modern critics; cf. Victorius, Explic.... p. 71: (iucunda (lotorum) opacitas erat...;... loti deliciarum causa summaarU colebantur...... aduenae autem raram arborem uisebant...) etc. Cf. Tyrrell and Purser: ‘ On the splendour of the lotus and the high value set by the Romans on having it in the private estates,’ see PI. N.H. xvii. prooem. (Loti, patula ramorum opacitate lasciuae, etc.). There as well as xiii. (32) 17, Pliny seems to be thinking of the Celtis australis.
page 280 note 9 xvii. prooem.
page 280 note 10 Xvi. (86) 44, 236.
page 280 note 11 (85) 44, 235.
page 280 note 12 Cf. De Off. iii. 113; Att. xiii. 30, 3; Fam. v. 12, 2; De Rep. passim.
page 280 note 13 Pol, ap, Athen. Deipn. xiv. 65.
page 280 note 14 Fraas: Synopsis Plantarum Florae classicae, Munchen, 1845, p. 94.
page 280 note 15 x v i. (86) 44, 236: Radices eius (of the one of the Volcanal) in forum usque Caesaris, etc.
page 281 note 1 Italian name of the nettle-tree.
page 281 note 2 PI. N.H. xvii. prooem. This dwelling is now in the hands of Cicero, who highly appreciates and cares for all the dotes of it. Cf. A. Lichten berger, de Cic. re priv., Paris, 1895 (pp. 3, 7. 8, 9) I do not think that this historical ornament of Cicero′s house has ever been mentioned hitherto. Does this silence of modern critics mean that the trees were destroyed by the Clodius fire ? But if so, how should Pliny have seen them and spoken of their old age ?
page 281 note 3 As they do in Southern France, at Aix or Names.
page 281 note 4 Cf. Richter, Topogr. der Stadt Rom, pp. 35 and 133 (in Handbuch, by Ivan Miiller).