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The Date fo Cunedda

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  02 January 2015

A. H. A. Hogg
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Antiquity , Volume 22 , Issue 88 , December 1948 , pp. 201 - 205
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Copyright © Antiquity Publications Ltd 1948

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References

1 P. H. Blair. The Origins of Northumbria. Arch. Ael., 4 ser., vol. xxv (1947), pp. 1-51.

2 § 62.

3 Ed. E. Phillimore. Y Cymm., IX, 141-83.

* The spelling of these names has been altered to agree with that used elsewhere in this note.

4 A later and less reliable M.S. (Jesus Coll 20) inserts Genedaoc and Iago between Cein and Tacit. Y Cymm., VIII, p. 85.

5 (a) Under Adderley, in the Broughton branch of the Broughton Adderleys, Peter, b. 1745, d. 1827 ; Peter, b. 1788, d. 1870 ; John Lambart (2nd son), b. 1831, d. 1914. Interval 169 years.

(b) Under Aitken, in the Chetwood branch of the Chetwood-Aitkens, Knightley, b. 1679, d. 1752 ; Valentine Knightley (4th son, only one having issue), b. 1708, d. 1771 ; Jonathan, b. 1757, d. 1839. Interval 160 years.

(c) Aldersey. Thomas, b. 1634-5, d. 1715 ; Samuel, b. 1673, d. 1741 ; Samuel (last surviving son), b. 1714, d. 1802. Interval 167 years.

6 Alexander the Steward, b. 1213-14, d. 1283 ; Andrew Stywart, b. circa 1278, d. circa 1350 ; Alexander Stuart, b. 1329, d. circa 1394 (alive in 1390). Interval 176-180 years. Cambridge A.S. Proc, vol. XXVII (1924-5) to face p. 87.

7 R. Britain and the English Settlements (1st edn.), p. 283.

8 Watson, Celtic Place-names of Scotland, p. 103 ; O.S. Map of Britain in the Dark Ages, North Sheet.

9 Ibid., p. 343.

10 ANTIQUITY XVI (1942), pp. 237-57.

11 Loc. cit., p. 283.

12 §§33-35.

13 Iolo M.S.S., pp. 471, 472, 474.

14 The Dynasty of Cunedag . . . E. W. B. Nicholson. Y Cymm., xxi (1908), p. 62. In parts the paper seems rather speculative, but it contains many suggestions of great value.

* It is tempting to go a step further. By assuming that the names were given at birth, and making Tacit and Patern brothers, one can obtain a reasonable dated genealogy, Cein (b. 240) being succeeded by his son Tacit (b. 275 or 6) who was succeeded by his brother Patern (b. 279). Patern’s successor would be either his son or nephew, born about 305 or 310.

On account of its speculative character this suggestion has been relegated to a footnote, but it involves no more disregard of the early sources than is customary in dealing with this period.

15 I. A. Richmond. Romans in Redesdale. Northumberland Co. History, vol. XV, p. 95.

16 Ibid., p. 114.

17 loe. cit.

* This explanation applies equally to the ‘ur’ of the Pictish list.